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November 14, 2013
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Rebecca:  First, what are you feeding her?  If you feed kibble then it’s very possible.  That food they make in China (all of it) is full of toxins.  Did you know that there are only 5 pet food manufacturers? The big 5 make it all and then they spinoff “private labels.”  If you feed kibble I suggest that you start a raw diet for her. It will help her become healthy in every way.  Texas is full of cattle, sheep and pork you can get for her.  If you decide to do that just let me know and I’ll coach you through it.  The biggest problem is sourcing good meat that hasn’t been fed GMO-grains.   I’ll help you do that too.  

And has she been recently vaccinated?  There are also huge potentials for environmental toxins.  Do you live anywhere near an area where they are fracking or doing other “things” to disturb the environment like chemical plants?  What about your home?  Do you use chemicals for cleaning, washing, or do you use those smelly commercial fresh air/spray/smell products in the home, and what do you wash her bedding with?

That new observation is very critical!  Good job of reporting that.  It indicates to me that it could be something in the home.  What about spraying pesticides on the grass?  Some dogs are so sensitive that they can react to a neighbor way down the street when they spray.

I highly recommend a raw prey model diet for all dogs and cats. Kibble or even commercial raw is causing so many problems for our pets that they didn’t have back when they were fed home cooked meals or scraps from families.  I suggest that you join the rawfeeding Yahoo group and start reading and asking questions. 

Also, I would highly recommend testing her food and environmental allergies.  The only person, the top dog vaccine and food allergy vet is Dr. Jean Dodds.  I just had my two tested recently and the one I thought was probably hypothyroid wasn’t, and the one I thought was perfectly wasn’t.  Google Dr. Dodds.  Her lab,  Hemopet is an amazing organization.  She adopts greyhounds and she also single handedly (with her co-researcher at the University of Minnesota) has been able to change the law in 12 (not sure if that’s the right number) states with her cutting-edge vaccine research.  Dr. Schultz and Dr. Dodds are two people you can trust.  She is not a homeopath, and I totally disagree with her pet nutrition ideas, but she is the woman who can tell you if your dog has hypothyroidism or allergies.

I would contact her office and see what they say about allergies and what you should test for. It’s also not horribly expensive, but you have to have the blood drawn and sent via USPS Express. Anyway, I was so glad I did it and I wouldn’t have known.  Hypothyroidism is a very dangerous condition for a dog. You live in a small town, right?  Mining/oil/other toxic things going on around there?  

I would definitely do the food allergies test with Dr. Dodds.  My little guy with hypothyroidism (first time diagnosis) also came back with allergies to BEEF, which he ate a lot of.  There was an entire page of possible allergy-creating things, but his primary allergy was beef and many kinds of grasses!!  I don’t even know what they were, but I’ve been keeping him away from anything that looks like grass.  

Anyway, you’re making progress.

 

My personal experience with kibble dog food and vaccines is just that.  It is my experience/opinion and not that of the hpathy site or its owners/directors/founders. 

 

 

 

 

 

November 14, 2013
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Victoria,

Lena eats home made food, mostly cooked chicken/turkey, some raw, sardines, chews raw beef bones, vegetables, small amount of organic kibble. Her only vaccination was before I got her, the vet where she was dumped out gave her a puppy vaccine at about age 8 weeks and I thought that was her problem may have started. We do not use pesticides around our home and I minimal products for cleaning, mostly white vinegar. So, of course, she could be allergic to some of her foods, but why go all day without itching, then start as soon as she got into the house? It could be dust allergies perhaps? I do not have carpet, but we live out in the country and there is a lot of dust.

I’ve read about Dr. Dodds, will check out her website. In the  mean time, I am trying the rhus tox which David suggested. She’s such a sweet dog and it kills us to see her suffer.  Thanks so much for your input.

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The new information can be interpreted in 2 ways:

 

1. There is something inside the house that is acting as an allergen. I would try to find what with the help of a vet.

2. We add the symptom Amel, riding on cars / wagons and we immediately find that Calcarea doesn’t cover that. Graphites would then be the choice.

 

However, I would like to strongly validate / disprove the hypothesis that there might be some allergen at work here first and isolate her from the same in case there is one.

 

November 15, 2013
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Thank you, Surabhi. If it IS an allergen, would it not affect her even when away from the allergen? She did not itch all day while in the car, but almost immediately started after coming into the house. That is puzzling to me.

In case of allergens, do we have to know specifically what the allergen is to get the correct homeopathic remedy? I am trying the rhus (no change really).

 

Thank you,

 

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November 19, 2013
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Update… I’ve been giving Lena the Rhus 6C 3 times a day for 4 days. She initially seemed better, with long periods of no itching.

Sunday, I bathed her. She doesn’t mind playing in water, but doesn’t like baths. Odor started coming back within a couple of hours.

Monday… very itchy. Scratching, chewing at legs. Front legs had bumps – dry.

Tuesday… very itchy all night. Still chewing at legs but bumps have gone away mostly.

Likes to dig in dirt and lie in it, rubs her face in it.

Still happy and bouncy most of the time.

 

Keep up with rhus? Or try the graphites?  Thank you…

 

November 19, 2013
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Hello Rebecca, I would like to add here an observation by old homeopaths which states that “bathing antidotes rhus actions”.

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November 19, 2013
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Let me make sure I understand this correctly. Bathing her may have stopped anything the rhus was doing? So, if it working for her, the bath may have stopped it? Interesting! And fits in with the increased amount of itching SINCE the bath.

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I don’t believe bathing can’t antidote a curative remedy. It can antidote a proving or palliative effect however so it is a little concerning that this has happened. If the Rhus-t is simply moderating the symptoms rather than curing them it is definitely possible the bathing could be undoing that.

My advice would be to get Rhus-tox 12c and giver her two doses a day for 3 days and see if this improves her again. If not then it would be appropriate to shift to a new remedy.

November 20, 2013
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If my knowledge serves me right, with a gifted smelling capacity, only smelling a dry globules once will suffice to bring back a positive reaction. That too the 6c will be fine as the previous reaction has stopped already.

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November 22, 2013
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Hello all. Still itching! Worse at night. Better when sitting in front of heater. What next?  Thanks…

November 22, 2013
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Oh, but it may be my fault. Store did not have 12C rhus.  I gave her 30C. Overdose causing aggravation?

November 24, 2013
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After last Sunday’s bath, Lena was scratching almost constantly. I gave her 2 more doses of rhus (30C) which seemed to initially aggravate her itching. The itching has subsided over the week — it is not constant and the bouts of scratching are not as long. So, I would say she is improved but not cured.

 

I am changing her main food staple from chicken/eggs (with vegetables, & very little kibble), to beef, in case the chicken is an allergen for her. Chicken is what she has been eating since coming to us, so maybe that is the problem.

 

In spite of her itching, this dog remains full of energy and in good spirits. 

November 24, 2013
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After last Sunday’s bath, Lena was scratching almost constantly. I gave her 2 more doses of rhus (30C) which seemed to initially aggravate her itching. The itching has subsided over the week — it is not constant and the bouts of scratching are not as long.

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Good news!  I’m really glad she’s better. Rebecca, considering the state of BIG AGs hold on the meat industry, and particularly the poultry industry, I started raw feeding with chicken and dropped it right away.  I’d be interested to know if you checked the chicken for enhancements.  If not, it was probably enhanced meat, and would absolutely make her itch.  Also, unless you buy organic chicken (not natural), you can be sure that you and your dog (if you eat it) are eating GMO grains, which are not healthy for pets or human.  

 

Due to all of these problems with the meat and poultry industries, I buy only pasture raised, non-GMO grain fed pork and beef, llama, alpaca and lamb for my dogs.  I also eat the same human grade, choice meat (higher grade/same animals) that my dogs eat, processed at the butcher in No. Colorado. You might think that it’s too expensive, but it’s not.  Grass fed meat is a necessity for health. Also, you save on homeopath and vet bills, sick dogs, human illnesses, and that means a lot.  Living in TX, I know you have neighbors who butcher their own meat. You can ask them for the scraps, organs, meaty bones (not beef bones) when they butcher.  If they’re locals I’m sure they would give them to you for free.  If the meat is processed in small state-owned and USDA inspected one-animal-at-a-time plants, you won’t get meat that is sprayed and dipped and who knows what like you get w/meat at the grocery store.    

Also, although it’s against the law, laying chickens are ALWAYS given at least 1 antibiotic in their short lives.  Again, only organic eggs can protect her from all of the “junk” that poultry producers feed chickens.  Non-organic eggs are always GMO fed.  I’m lucky.  Live in the city, but we have an urban farm law.  We can raise chickens (up to 8) and we can have 2 goats in our back yards.  I share an urban farm w/friend.  Keep a big old meat freezer in the garage and get fresh eggs from my 2 hens.  I buy the food, I know it’s organic, and they are pastured and eat whatever we feed them.  They’re into pumpkin right now!! Think about finding farmers/locally.  There is a USDA question/answer format called “Ask an Expert” Google that and then ask the question to see if there is a local “one-animal-at-a-time” processor (meat and poultry – poultry is normally done in their own plants).  Also, don’t know if you have deer/elk season, but find out who you know (if you have deer/elk in TX) because the wild animal processors will sometimes give you scraps.

I just got 52 pounds of elk scraps for my dogs from a hunter.  He’s always happy to give it to me because then he doesn’t have to pay the price to have it disposed of. 

I wish you would really read up on raw feeding and try it.  You (and anyone who tries it) sees immediate results in the health of your pet.  Also, if you follow the raw prey model diet and provide edible bones (10% of the total food intake) you won’t have to take her to the vet for that horrific anesthetic and teeth cleaning procedure!  Another money saving benefit of raw feeding.  If you’re willing to try it, join the raw-feeding Yahoo group.  Yes, there is a learning curve. I’m here and I can help you.  The most difficult thing about raw feeding (no veggies, dogs and cats are carnivores and their digestive systems don’t digest veggies, grass, fruits) is sourcing the meat.  I’m fortunate to live in CO, where 87% of the country’s meat is produced within 100 miles of my home in downtown Denver.  But you are in the second best state for beef!  You need to feed a variety of meats because they all have different nutrients.

So think about it.  Beef too can be enhanced.  Not like chicken, but if it comes from China or any regular grocery store, be sure it’s been dipped and sprayed in processing, and then they spray it to keep it red in the package.  Not good for humans and animals.  That’s why I only eat and feed my dogs the meat that I get from my source.  I’ve been buying meat from him for 3 years, but once I began to cultivate friendships with hunters and wild meat processors, the meat became free! 

We can arrange a time to chat if you want to.  My life is crazy right now.  Also, lost my phone on a trip up north go pick up some elk scraps.  Ugh.  I’m not buying another one until I’m sure it’s not around here someplace.  🙂  I’m happy to help you or anyone improve the nutritional part of their pets’ health.  

I am truly of the belief that we can do more for our pets than any vet or any kibble in a bag or home cooked diet with an experienced classical homeopath who knows pets and a raw food diet of meat, meaty bones and organs.  If you join the Yahoo group it’s mostly new people w/start-up questions or problems because they fed too much organ meat or actually started with “enhanced chicken” and have the same problem you’re having.  

People in the group feed non-organic chicken.  I wouldn’t, but they do.  The key is to look at the label and make sure that it’s not enhanced or that the particuar chicken you’re feeding has less than 100 mg of sodium per each 4 oz. serving.  There is still “stuff” in non-organic chicken that can contribute to itching, but enhanced meat is usually the first thing we look for.  

 

Also, with the turkey time, there will be huge sales after the holiday.  You can buy her turkey, but same holds:  enhanced as well.  Check labels for the same as above.  Be careful if you buy turkey or chicken ever because they come from factory farms. 

 

Rebecca, my dogs have taught me a lot about what I was eating.  I changed too! Now I eat with the thought that food is medicine, always keep it in my mind when buying anything.

 

I tried to upload an attachment regarding enhanced meats produced by the USDA, but the site said something was wrong!!  If you or anyone wants a copy of the pdf file, e-mail me at victoria  (the number  2)    d  c    at    comcast dot net, and I’ll send it.  It’s helpful information for humans and pets.  

 
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Try giving her one dose of 30c every week and see if that makes any further changes. Don’t do this is if it appears she is improving slowly on her own.

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After a couple of days of diminished itching/scratching, yesterday was bad. Lena scratched and chewed for long periods. Last night, I gave her one dose of the rhus 30C.  She’s still itchy this morning.

What happened yesterday?  I took her for a long walk. It was cold and damp, and she ran and played in tall grasses.

Inside, she still likes to sit right in front of  a heater or on top of a heating vent. Seems to help the itchiness.

 

 

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Yes cold damp naturally aggravates Rhus-tox patients. Was there any improvement at all from the 30c?

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No, I gave her the one dose last night. She was still very itchy all day today.

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The remedy should aggravate first, that may be what is happening. Improvement should set in soon if the remedy is still acting curatively.

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12/9/13 — after the last dose of rhus on 11/28, Lena continued to itch intermittently. No improvement.  I have now given her the calc carb (which Surahbi had suggested initially) 30C (no 200C available), for a few days, 3 doses per day. She is scratching less, but still scratching.  She no longer has the little pimples on top of her head and it appears some fur is coming back in.

The change in diet from chicken base to beef base made no difference (neither were organic).

Once again, on a day trip, she hardly scratched at all while in the car.

If I spray her with Bach Rescue Remedy when she is scratching, she does calm down in a few minutes.

Any further suggestions, or should I just let her be for a while?

Thank you.

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Rebecca said
12/9/13 — after the last dose of rhus on 11/28, Lena continued to itch intermittently. No improvement.  I have now given her the calc carb (which Surahbi had suggested initially) 30C (no 200C available), for a few days, 3 doses per day. She is scratching less, but still scratching.  She no longer has the little pimples on top of her head and it appears some fur is coming back in.

The change in diet from chicken base to beef base made no difference (neither were organic).

Once again, on a day trip, she hardly scratched at all while in the car.

If I spray her with Bach Rescue Remedy when she is scratching, she does calm down in a few minutes.

Any further suggestions, or should I just let her be for a while?

Thank you.

And one other thing, she has a sour/cheesy odor…

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